If Greivis Vasquez Doesn't Win ACC POY

**pvfan** · February 18th, 2010, 02:38 AM

It only proves what everyone outside of the state of North Carolina has thought for years. The guy is only putting up2 1.5/4.5/6.4 on 47% shooting (44.6% from behind the arc) in conference games. Sadly, Scheyer will probably win it and I think he's behind both Vasquez and Delaney.

**burton2019** · February 18th, 2010, 08:55 AM

Go ahead and be prepared to be disappointed. It's Scheyer's to lose.

**Shooter** · February 18th, 2010, 09:43 AM

Just for comparison here are Scheyers numbers...overall, cant find his conference numbers.

19.1ppg 3.4reb 5.4a 1.8to 1.6s 43% (41% 3P) 89%FT

**pvfan** · February 18th, 2010, 10:13 AM

ACC Stats Only:

PPG: Vasquez 21.5/Scheyer 18.8
Assists: Vasquez 6.4/Scheyer 4.8
FG %: Vasquez 47%/can't find Scheyer's he's not in the top ten
3 point%: 44.6/Scheyer 37.6

It's really not even close.

**CoeburnCane** · February 18th, 2010, 10:17 AM

Hate to toss a fly into your ointment, but Vasquez has those numbers b/c he's one of the only guys on Maryland's team with an offensive arsenal. Scheyer has Singler/Smith splitting stats with him. The argument has to be that Vasquez could put up the #'s Scheyer is with two other stat-eaters on his team, which I don't believe is the case.

**TheBeast** · February 18th, 2010, 10:22 AM

RPI

Duke 2
MD 42

strength of schedule

Duke 2
MD 25

From the ACC'S site:

Scoring GP FG 3PG FT PTS AVG
1. Malcolm Delaney-VT JR 24 136 46 167 485 20.2
2. Jon Scheyer-DU SR 26 144 73 135 496 19.1
3. Greivis Vasquez-MD SR 25 164 51 92 471 18.8

Scheyer is ahead of Vasquez in every category except FG% and ahead of Delaney in every category except scoring. And if you look Scheyer has played in two more games than Delaney which drops his PPG and is the reason he is behind him there.

Head to head:

...........................................3 Pt..........................Rebounds
............................FG-FGA....FG-FGA...FT-FTA.......Off Def Tot PF.....TP....A..TO..Blk..Stl..Min
30 Jon Scheyer g........6-12.......3-4........7-8............1...2....3...1.......22....1...1...0. ....0...36
21 Greivis Vasquez g....7-12.......2-3........1-2............3...4....7...4......17.....4...3...0. ...1...33

Atlantic Coast Conference Men's Basketball - Atlantic Coast Conference Official Athletic Site

**Biggin** · February 18th, 2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by CoeburnCane

Hate to toss a fly into your ointment, but Vasquez has those numbers b/c he's one of the only guys on Maryland's team with an offensive arsenal. Scheyer has Singler/Smith splitting stats with him. The argument has to be that Vasquez could put up the #'s Scheyer is with two other stat-eaters on his team, which I don't believe is the case.

That doesnt work like that.

Since Vasquez is UM;s only scorer, teams are scheming to stop him, since he is their only big threat, therefore he has to work 2x as hard for his points, unlike Scheyer, who has help on offense to keep the defenses from singling him out.

**gcdevil22** · February 18th, 2010, 04:28 PM

I don't care if Delaney doesn't win POY, but if he is left off the first team all-ACC it will be a joke

**CoeburnCane** · February 18th, 2010, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

That doesnt work like that.

Since Vasquez is UM;s only scorer, teams are scheming to stop him, since he is their only big threat, therefore he has to work 2x as hard for his points, unlike Scheyer, who has help on offense to keep the defenses from singling him out.

On the court, that's true. In statistics land where this thread was headed, what I said is right almost 100 times out of 100.